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I believe our son has CAPD, has most of the characteristics

I have wondered for years what could be going on, and with the help of a speech therapist who works outside the public school system, I found information about CAPD.  Our son is 11, and has had learning issues since I can remember.  He talked late, but seemed very happy and content.  Going into school, he was tested at almost a retarted level, which I argued was insane.  So what if he didn't know how to spell his full name or color within lines, I'd never taught him those things, that's what school is for.  Over the years, he developed "stuttering/cluttering", and was seen by all kinds of specialists.  He was given special instruction in school, we took him for testing at a university for both speech and mental tests.  Noone mentioned any hearing issues to us, and I don't think he was tested for that.  We're going to schedule a test with an audiologist, but we need to find one that has experience with this disorder. Being mothers, we know our children, and we know when something isn't right.  When I read the signs of CAPD, my blood went cold and tears came to my eyes.  These symptoms are ones we've dealt with for years,  but everyone said there's "nothing clinically wrong" with our son. I'm happy to know there is at least one website for CAPD parents and sufferers out there.  Until we get the official testing done, we won't know for sure if this is the problem, but my heart tells me it is.  I hope everyone that is affected with this gets treatment and support, because a parent can easily feel guilty about not having this diagnosis soon.  I will post again with updates in case anyone is interested. Thank you again for this site.

Diana, Taneytown MD


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Hi Diana,
Welcome to this board! It sounds like your journey has been similar to ours. I also read the symptoms and immediately felt that was the issue with our son. Our son had a history of ear infections, does yours? I would definitely follow your intuition. I followed mine against a great wave of people who told me to give up, including my husband. He now thanks me all the time that I persisted.

As for finding an audiologist, that can be tricky. I would go here: http://www.ncapd.org/php/index.php?menu … 20Listings and look up a name in their directory. They are the National Coalition of Auditory Processing Disorders. I believe their initial intention was the be a site full of information about CAPD. Unfortunately though one of their key people passed away a few years ago, and it seems the organization has since fallen to the wayside. But I'm sure any audiologist listed in their directory has to specialize in CAPD.

I'm new on this journey myself, so I'm not expert, but I'd love to share and discuss solutions. Our son did AIT (auditory integration training) which was very beneficial. Easy too consider it was only 2 weeks of therapy. We were doing Earobics with him which seemed to be helping, but the school wanted to do Therapuetic Listening (TL) with him, and asked us to suspend all other therapies in the meantime. We did not seem a tremendous result with TL, although we did some improvements in his writing and coordination. TL is geared towards OT, not language/hearing, so it wasn't meant to help in that area.

Hopefully your son has an IEP due to his language delay. The schools do not acknowledge auditory processing disorder as a learning disability (can you believe it?!). So if you don't have an IEP, or at least a 504, you're going to have to be really pushy to get services. Our son has an IEP because he's only 6-1/2 and still a long way from talking at age-level. We were able to get him an FM system for when he starts 1st grade next week. Fingers crossed it helps. I will check back and let you know.

Thanks for sharing!
Take care,
Bonnie


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Hi Bonnie, thanks for that response!  Our son did have an IEP from the speech issues, but had been released from that before we moved back here to MD.They don't consider him having an issue now because his "delays" aren't severe enough to impact him socially or affect his grades.  The reason his grades are so good is because we've made sure the schools have implimented things to help him that we learned with this fluency and anxiety diagnoses. So far, those have helped, but we didn't want to risk the schools telling us they couldn't take that extra time due to his not having an IEP or diagnosed disorder of some type.  Thank God I was told about this CAPD!

Luckily enough, we got a Dr of Audiology that is member of lots of groups, like the American Speech Language Hearing Assocation, the American Auditory Society, the American Academy of Audiology, and her cridentials are "Au.D., FAAA, CCC-A".  When I called and spoke to her personally, she told me that she had just gotten the contract to be the audiologist for the school district here.  That would be great, because then she'd be able to work more closely with the school and know all about his issues.  According to our insurance company, all the procedure and diagnostic codes we were given by the audiologist are covered, so we scheduled the testing for the 10th.  That was the earliest we could get him in later in the day so he wouldn't miss too much school.  I'm looking forward to that testing, and the results. 

The poor little guy, he's already been self conscious enough with the speech issues and not "fitting in" like other kids his age. We've moved a total of 5 times in the last 7 years, so it's not been easy for him.  I want so badly to feel like just another kid, not singled out for anything and not to be made to feel like he's got something wrong with him.  I just want him to be normal, and happy.  I think since he's an only child, I've tried to overcompensate with him by being what some people call overprotective.  To me, it's being a good Mom.  His biggest issues in learning are still comprehension, both written and oral.  When they started doing written math, his grades dropped significantly.  He was always a math whiz!  Spelling he's great at, if he can write the words multiple times in practice, he's got the spelling word down pat, at least for a while. 

I would appreciate any suggestions and strategies any of you have used with your kids.  I know the same thing doesn't work for all children, but having options will help in knowing what's out there.  Our son did say he liked science more now because it's "hands on" instead of just writing a bunch of stuff. That's how he is, he's a huge Lego fan, he LOVES building Legos.

He's had ear infections, but never had tubes or anything put in his ears, so I assumed he had a normal number of infections a kid his age would.  No head trauma that I recall, but I think there might be a genetic component in all this.  His biological father seemed like he was the same way, but he's died years ago of cancer, and was never diagnosed with anything.  There are actual clinical trials out now looking for genetic abnormalities for CAPD!  We can't go that route now, so doing the testing and treatment is all I look forward to.  I've never been the type of person to give up when it comes to my baby, every school he's ever been to knows that.  I held him back in first grade against the principal's wishes (this is when he was diagnosed with cluttering/stuttering).  When she tried to tell us it wouldn't help him, I stood up and said "you ARE going to hold him back, all his teachers recommend it.  If you don't agree to it, I'll go over your head".  Of course, she gave in.  What else was she going to do with an angry mom and 5 teachers on my side?  If I have to fight more for him, so be it.  That's what any good mom would do.  big_smile


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Diana, I’m so glad that you’re being really proactive with your son. I would investigate if there are any rules around a child who was released from an IEP but still needs special ed services. While auditory processing disorder is not recognized as a learning disability (why the hell not I don’t know!), it may be because your son HAD an IEP, he’s still entitled to services. I can tell you that our son has an IEP, and we’ve still had to fight tooth and nail with the school. We hired a lawyer last year who we didn’t get along with, and we let him go before we finished the process, but after we fired him the school started giving in. I think they were afraid we were going to get another lawyer. But before we hired them they would do nothing around the auditory processing issues.

If your son is diagnosed by an audiologist, hopefully the audiologist will prescribe an FM system. I do not think the school can deny him that if it’s been prescribed by a doctor. The FM system is an amplification system that helps to filter out noise so the child can hear the teacher more clearly. Our son will be starting with on when he starts school next week. Research has also shown that use of the FM system also improves the auditory processing, so in way it’s a form of therapy as well.

It’s very common for kids with CAPD to have trouble with word problems in math. Also issues learning to read. If your son is diagnosed, at the very least the school will have to provide accommodations (I think). They may provide him with more time, additional instructions or deliver the information in a different form.

By the way, if you think your child might have a form of learning disability, the school is required by law to investigate. They can say no, and you might have to push, but they are required to do it. If your son is struggling with writing and language, and they say CAPD isn’t a learning disability, you can always say that you suspect dyslexia. Research is showing that there may be a strong link between auditory processing issues and dyslexia. So strong some researchers think they are the same issue, just different ends of a spectrum between visual and auditory processing issues.

You sound a lot like me when it comes to taking care of your son. My husband thinks I’m over protective, but I think I’m being a good mom. Life is different than when I was a kid, and I know I have to do way more than my mom did to get help in school (not that I needed it, but my sister had dyslexia).

By the way, AIT is extremely helpful with anxiety.

HTH,
Bonnie


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Diana, here's a good link with info on how to help in the classroom: http://www.mental-health-matters.com/in … temid=2106  (it's in our library here on the site, item #11 in classroom accommodations section). The teacher may not want to help until you get the diagnosis, but once you have it there is lots that can be done that is fairly easy for the teacher to implement.

Take care,
Bonnie


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Thanks for the info Bonnie.  He gets tested on Sept 10th, and I'm anxious to get this done.  Believe me, I will be a pain in the behind of the entire school system until they give me what I need to help him.  I'd actually considered homeschooling him over a year ago if the district didn't help him with his needs.  I can still do that, I'd probably use unit studies to teach him.  I'm close to Washington DC and Baltimore, so finding topics for study wouldn't be a problem.  But him being an only child, I want him to make friends and have a normal social life.  But if I need to pull him out of the public school system to meet his educational needs, so be it.


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